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By: Llegar a los datos, no importa el camino – Cuidando Tu Negocio

Llegar a los datos, no importa el camino – Cuidando Tu Negocio — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:01:47 +0000

[...] Europe en Londres hicieron de los anuncios que Elcomsoft colocó en su stand con el eslogan “La única manera de entrar en PGP” y que tenían como objetivo difundir que su producto Elcomsoft Distributed Password Recovery ya [...]

By: Sergey Zak

Sergey Zak — Mon, 18 May 2009 09:54:25 +0000

This incident looks to me like a clash of cultures. There’s just much less control over such stuff in Russia. We still have much more “rebel thing” alive. I wonder what Steve Jobs would say about such slogans…

By: Olga Koksharova

Olga Koksharova — Wed, 13 May 2009 09:31:57 +0000

Hey Vlad I was responsible for that as well and I think it was a wonderful experience in terms of everything and marketing too, it’s very close to sky-jumping in the sence that you suddenly realize what everybody is worth… I couldn’t wish myself a better company.

John Downey, I’m really sorry for you and your many years in marketing

By: Vladimir Katalov

Vladimir Katalov — Wed, 13 May 2009 06:58:01 +0000

Actually, it was me . The idea (of the text on the poster) came from our designer, but I confirmed it. Sorry, but I cannot fire myself, as far as I’m co-founder/co-owner of the company . Oh, and CEO as well…

By: John Downey

John Downey — Wed, 13 May 2009 00:29:22 +0000

I have worked in technical marketing and have done so for many years. I’ve done a LOT of these shows.

Whoever was responsible for the Elcomsoft booth posters should be fired. No ifs, no buts, fired.

By: Vlad Patryshev

Vlad Patryshev — Mon, 04 May 2009 18:35:15 +0000

As much as I detest Elcomsoft’s business, I still think they are absolutely right in both pointing at the ubiquitous weaknesses and in insisting on their right to express their ideas.

By: mrschwarz

mrschwarz — Mon, 04 May 2009 17:40:12 +0000

The majority of the posts don’t take issue with anything, but the message. If the organizer took down every poster with non-factual advertising, I’m thinking the exhibit hall would look at little empty.

Unless it’s their job to enforce truth in advertising, whether or not there are other ways to break into PGP are irrelevant.

By: Trentf

Trentf — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:16:06 +0000

It looks like PGP spends more money with Reed and someone at PGP threatened to cut back. Organizers will do almost anything to keep big spenders happy.

By: boo1999

boo1999 — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:05:18 +0000

In my personal opinion: this is kind of “not right” to tell in public about the issue and do business on it What is difference than in compare to the “hackers groups”? Did you do a discussion with the software vendor first? Sorry, but It was not clear from the blog message. However, what was clear that the PGP company have complained about your “initiative”. Is there should be exact “regulations” to do or not to do something for you? :):)

By: Jenson

Jenson — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:52:56 +0000

Well, looks like the took you serious, anotheer sign of lacking profession: in the security world you simply do not sellby FUDD. So it is obvious that Elcomsoft is not (realy) targeting the professional security market. They sell XLS Crackers and “Windowsian” John the Rippe like Software. Nothing you wont find as freeware or can make your self (like libssh… okay no cuda but thats just another consumer argument -> Copacobana/FCPGA is still far above Cuda…).
Anyhow PGP seems to have lost the focus as well, you can figure that out by comparing user complaints 5-6 years ago with those recently seen: still the same: no reliable WORKING Outlook Integration, no USERFRIENDY setup, no meaningfull logs but plenty of strange DLL’s interfering with VPN/Netfilter software.. Gee I use PGP, I dont need VPN

So just a boring story of marketing worriers fighting on the turf of technical nihilism.

-BR J